Good news, Bad news
Well, we missed Zawahiri it seems but we got one of the primary bomb makers for Al Qaeda. According to reports, and it will probably take another week for this all to shake out, it seems we got 3-4 other high level operatives along with the bomb dude. In addition, we also probably killed the entire family that was in the house and possibly other women and children. Tragic that women and children had to die to get this guy.
This does beg the question of whether or not the raid, in Pakistan, was worth it. The Pakistan problem of it being in their border is pretty easily seen as it would have been better to let them know before hand but then its possible you lose operational surprise. That is an unfortunate case but its the bottom line.
The question of whether or not killing up to 14 bystanders to get these 4 guys is a totally different question. The first thing i would look at is: whose fault is it that they were there? Is it the US's fault that the bystanders were killed because we fired the missle (probably from a Predator), is it the terrorist's fault for being near bystanders and putting them in harm's way, or is it the family's fault for having freaking Al Qaeda operatives over in the first place? I
n my opinion, the primary fault is with the parents of the children and the family. When you invite terrorists over to dinner, its unreasonable to expect that you will be safe. There are men with millions of dollars on their heads and that the US is actively hunting, if you sympathize with them, and harbor them, then you are a legitimate target. The primary fault here is with the people doing this. That for me is most of the blame, probably about 95%. The terrorists and the US both have a much smaller blame here but i would say that both share that. You can blame the terrorists for alot of other things. They are evil, dispicable men that want to use violence, mainly against civilians to force their own political agenda of Islamic Fasicism onto the world. But I don't think they are too responsible because its seems they were invited there. The US can't let terrorists hide behind sympathizers and must take risks. We didn't want to kill the bystanders but even if we knew they were there you have to think the raid would have happened anyway because it could save so many more people by having this guy dead. Even more is we got Zawahiri. So really, its a tragic event that children and women who are held completely in check by their husbands, people with no say in the situation, are killed but in the end you have to blame the male head of the family for that in my opinion.
This does beg the question of whether or not the raid, in Pakistan, was worth it. The Pakistan problem of it being in their border is pretty easily seen as it would have been better to let them know before hand but then its possible you lose operational surprise. That is an unfortunate case but its the bottom line.
The question of whether or not killing up to 14 bystanders to get these 4 guys is a totally different question. The first thing i would look at is: whose fault is it that they were there? Is it the US's fault that the bystanders were killed because we fired the missle (probably from a Predator), is it the terrorist's fault for being near bystanders and putting them in harm's way, or is it the family's fault for having freaking Al Qaeda operatives over in the first place? I
n my opinion, the primary fault is with the parents of the children and the family. When you invite terrorists over to dinner, its unreasonable to expect that you will be safe. There are men with millions of dollars on their heads and that the US is actively hunting, if you sympathize with them, and harbor them, then you are a legitimate target. The primary fault here is with the people doing this. That for me is most of the blame, probably about 95%. The terrorists and the US both have a much smaller blame here but i would say that both share that. You can blame the terrorists for alot of other things. They are evil, dispicable men that want to use violence, mainly against civilians to force their own political agenda of Islamic Fasicism onto the world. But I don't think they are too responsible because its seems they were invited there. The US can't let terrorists hide behind sympathizers and must take risks. We didn't want to kill the bystanders but even if we knew they were there you have to think the raid would have happened anyway because it could save so many more people by having this guy dead. Even more is we got Zawahiri. So really, its a tragic event that children and women who are held completely in check by their husbands, people with no say in the situation, are killed but in the end you have to blame the male head of the family for that in my opinion.
posted by Maddawg at 1/19/2006 10:10:00 AM
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